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Gents
HMZ God
Trinidad and Tobago
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 Posted - 22/03/2004 : 14:20:16
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Just when Gas-heads thought life couldn't get any worse, they get Russel Osman for manager!!
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David Tucker
White Lightning Beginner
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Posted - 22/03/2004 : 21:09:44
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I liked Osman, dont think he ever did anything wrong to be honest!! He was the man in charge for the most succesful season city have had in last 10 years, when we finished mid table in div 1!! okay it went wrong the season after but he was sacked to soon!
Cant remember to many of his signings though!! was atteveld one of them??
Was on the sauce with Danny Coles Matthews and Goodfellow on saturday nite by the way. Goodfellow is the smallest man ever |
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Gents
HMZ God
Trinidad and Tobago
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Posted - 23/03/2004 : 09:28:16
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Did they have any excuses for saturday's crap preformance?
As for Osman not doing much wrong... didn't he chuck out Jacki Dziekanowski (our best player in years), sell Andy Cole for £1.75m (without a sell-on clause, when he was then sold on for £7m a year later), and replace these with the likes of Dave Martin, Ian Baird, Liam Robinson, etc?
In his defence he did sign Tinman, and lead us to best cup run in years, beating Liverpool and finally getting knocked out by Charlton - during which he had a comical fight with Carl Leaburn who was twice as tall and wide as Osman.
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David Tucker
White Lightning Beginner
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Posted - 23/03/2004 : 21:11:48
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Nah no excuses, although Colesy was a bit peeved off that the defence was getting a load of stick for one off day. The bottom line is and what i told him was that we aint good enough, even when we went on our run it was obvious we were scraping through games and we havent got the strikers that can take us up. I think we will end up in the play offs again and i hope we can scrape through that go up and spend some money on players that can keep us in div 1!!
As for osman well i think his hands were tied with Cole their is no point keeping a player who doesnt want to stay at the club and i sont think anyone would have guessed that Cole would have scored 45 odd goals for Newcastle the season after!! Ok maybe he did sell jackie but he was starting to wane anyway!! At least we were solid under him...
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Ricardiño
HMZ God
Brazil
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Posted - 24/03/2004 : 11:14:38
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I think he can be put in the 'average manager blessed with a good set of players' category. No one doubts the fact that he had to sell Cole, it was just the fact that if he had had is head screwed on we would have made another 700k out of him, but to be fair that was probably more the Club than the manager's decision. Jon Ward was a lot better manager.
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Jungle Jim
HMZ God
Falkland Islands
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Posted - 24/03/2004 : 11:47:44
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Originally posted by Ricardiño
I think he can be put in the 'average manager blessed with a good set of players' category.
Not any more he can't!
Osman's taking Rovers down, do da, do da...
Hannah More Zider...
keeping the apples burning 
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lord lucan
HMZ God
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Posted - 24/03/2004 : 17:12:05
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Osman was awfull for us, Jacki was a victim of osman's terible football, that season was by far the the most boring i have seen. I can remember reading a program during one game. Andy cole wasa strange one but things were not right behind closed doors, they got that wrong but didn't les kew get banned from football for eight months for (borrowing football grants).
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lord lucan
HMZ God
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Posted - 24/03/2004 : 17:22:12
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Until City made the mistake of hiring Tony Pulis, Russell Osman held the unenviable position of most disliked City manager of all time. This was based on two main points. The first was that it was Osman who had released Jacki Dziekanowski from his contract. Secondly, Osman's defensive tactics made the football at Ashton Gate nearly unwatchable. Results were not bad, but the brand of football on display was so utterly tedious that it led to average attendances falling below the 8,000 mark, something almost unheard of for City.
Osman had two spells as a manager at City. The first was as caretaker and came about when Jimmy Lumsden was sacked and he took control of the club for a brief time along with Gary Shelton and Mark Aizlewood. Osman was made player-manager about a year later with the dismissal of Denis Smith in Januray 1993.
Osman saved City from relegation that year, but any popularity he had was not to last long. Within a month of the following season he had become a villain when he sacked crowd hero Jacki Dziekanowki. Jacki's days at City had been numbered under the reign of Denis Smith who often chose to start him on the bench, but Osman's brave decision to release the star backfired spectacuarly during the home game agaisnt Southend in September 1994. Jacki had been allowed to say goodbye to the fans before kick-off, which turned the fans against Osman in an instant. When Osman scored during the match he was booed by almost every fan in the ground.
Later in the season, Osman was to win back a small amount of respectability when City beat Liverpool at Anfield in one of their greatest FA Cup matches of all time. But the fans were still against him, and a new board that had taken over earlier in the season were biding their time for an excuse to sack him. This happened at the beginning of the 1994/95 season, and Joe Jordan took over almost immediately.
It is fair to say that Osman made many mistakes at City. The style of football reduced attendances to a point from which they did not recover for many seasons, and his handling of the Dziekanowski affair should not have been done in public. However, he also acheived many things during his short time as manager. The most notable thing is of course the splendid FA Cup run of 1993/94, and he also brought the likes of Brian Tinnion to the club.
But when the Reform Board took over in 1993, all backing for Osman evaporated and he had little money to spend. He built a team around youth team graduates (Mike Wyatt, Matt Hewlett, Jason Fowler), non-league players (Colin Loss, Ian Brown) and part-time teachers (Glenn Pennyfather) and took them to the second best league finish City had had for 15 years. He often spoke of his time at Ipswich when the best players were sold to fund the rebuilding of the ground and how it had angered him. You could tell that he had a plan to develop the City team over time, and he had started well by creating a defence that was one of the best in the division. But time is something that was not on Osman's side, and with the fans and board against him, it was no surprise when he was finally sacked in November 1994.
taken from bristol stats org
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David Tucker
White Lightning Beginner
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Posted - 24/03/2004 : 21:55:50
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I still dont think he did a bad job, but guess it is all about opinions, i dont mind boring football as long as results are right. No Arsenal fan used to complain when they were winning titles in early nineties with what effectively was a defensive team. Football is about results and my stat still is no manager since has takenus to as high a finish since Osman. I think Jordan second time round was crap by the way.
Jacki was a good player but i was more dissapointed when Bob Taylor was aloud to leave the club at age 24 |
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lord lucan
HMZ God
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Posted - 25/03/2004 : 16:03:05
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have to agree with you david tucker jordan should not have come back. bob taylor will always be a legend, i to was upset when he left
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Russell Osman! Praise Be!
