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| Chowie |
Posted - 12/02/2005 : 01:18:13
There has not been much talk of BCFC on here, but even though I have had a few ciders tonight I must say I'm now fustrated and worried about the future of the club. I was not a fan of the changes in the summer but will give anyone a chance. What do you boys think?
And is this good or not? http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=255396&CPID=11&CLID=&lid=5&title=Tinnion:+Doherty+staying&channel=League_1 |
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| longy |
Posted - 26/02/2005 : 13:45:01
My arm will be aching! |
| Gents |
Posted - 26/02/2005 : 09:21:30
Hello Sam, might see you later then... give us a wave every time Phillips catches a cross!
COME ON YOU REDS
ZIDER! |
| longy |
Posted - 25/02/2005 : 16:35:08
Its Sam, The one that knows the most about the club. And yes I am going tomorrow as I do not have a game!
It was ironic 15 minutes after I sent that last post city signed a new keeper. |
| Gents |
Posted - 25/02/2005 : 10:25:58
I reckon we are just gonna have to disagree on this one! I'd agree that you won't find a better keeper than Phillips in this division or many in the one above when it comes to saving shots, but when it comes claiming crosses, commanding the area and distributing the ball I can't remember seeing anyone worse this season.
Which Longy are you anyway? Going tomorrow? I will be on close Phillips-watch, but hopefully he will have a stormer now he's got Johnathan Gould breathing down his neck (thats a scary thought).
Oh yeah, and it was Oldham's defender Guy Branston that passed to Wilkshire tuesday, not their keeper. He was the same bloke who scored the own goal - couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke!
ZIDER! |
| longy |
Posted - 24/02/2005 : 20:36:59
Whatever, Cant be bothered anymore, I'll just finish by saying you wont find a better keeper than Phillips for a realistic tranfer fee and you wont find a better keeper in this division! |
| lord lucan |
Posted - 24/02/2005 : 17:26:07
How can you blame the defence for oldhams goal. The ball was 5 yards from the goal and phillips decides to FLAP again. Yes he is a good shot stopper although he has had a couple of dodgy ones this year, but time again he cause's so much trouble when defending corners. The keeper has to take control of the box when all set pieces and corners are coming in. Phillips could never do that, he always argues with the defence about marking etc but alot of the time hes to blame.
As for carey and coles the other night, well they looked awfull. Oldham are by far the worst team to play at ag for a long time but they caused so many problems. A new defender and keeper are a must
April 23. be proud |
| longy |
Posted - 24/02/2005 : 16:10:33
Again I dont want to go on about this but in the first half Oldham could have had 3 or 4 and Phillips kept us in the game again. A couple of divots in front and he still stopped them. The crossing issue well if your going to point a blame at anyone its the defence. Many times the ball just went right into the box and no defenders even attempted to clear it.
Finally did any of the anti-Phillips people see his awesome save towards the end when there striker was one on one with him and he managed to keep it out with an outstretched hand. Also your going on about Phillips imagine how Oldham must feel, their keeper actually just passing it to Wilkshire!
Longy |
| Gents |
Posted - 24/02/2005 : 10:11:47
Well it was a lot better than recent home games. We looked hungrier and more direct and decisive going forward, and the really encouraging thing was that the new spark we seemed to have was inspired by the young players coming in - Cotterill and Scott Brown are going to be great players for us. We played some nice stuff and obviously it was great to win 5-1...
...but it could have been a different story. Our defence (well Coles/Carey/Phillips really) was very dodgy, failing to deal with balls into the box time and time again. They gifted a chance to Oldham just before half-time when the score was 2-0 that they really should have taken, then the game could have been changed completely. As it happened we got our 3rd shortly after and that really finished things, but we still faffed around at the back throughout the second half and they should have scored a few more. Phillips just stood there gawping for their goal when he could have made an easy catch, to be fair to him he made some good one-on-one saves later on when put in trouble by Coles & Carey, but he shouldn't have had to. This story at least confirms Tinnion is aware of these problems and is doing something about it, cos our Central Defenders aren't up to the job: http://www.bcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10327~630913,00.html
ZIDER! |
| Chowie |
Posted - 23/02/2005 : 15:24:35
What was it really like last night then? |
| Gents |
Posted - 23/02/2005 : 11:37:48
quote:
Originally posted by longy
cock ups???? - Could you name some for me please?
- at least another 3 for the list last night! Check out Oldham's goal on the news tonight...
ZIDER! |
| longy |
Posted - 15/02/2005 : 17:35:54
More than made up in that Chesterfield match, for his display against Everton! Keep em coming. You will never win!
Longy |
| Gents |
Posted - 15/02/2005 : 09:26:42
OK, you wanted a rant!
This is lowest I've ever felt about City too I think. While we
shuffled out of the ground Friday I saw season tickets flung on
the floor - with 6 home games left - thats how bad it was, and that
sums up how optimistic of improvement people who have seen the recent
run of dismal performances is feeling.
Tinnion certainly looks like he's lost the plot. There is no
questioning that he is passionate about the club, but lately this may
have even been hampering him in as much as he looks so desperate to
put things right he doesn't seem to be thinking rationally. Giving
Scott Brown his debut on the left wing (when he's a central
midfielder), and supporting him with a very inexperienced central
defender playing at left-back behind him is just one of many baffling
recent decisions.
Also I think his job has been made difficult this year due to the
main reasons -
Players not wanting to play for him - there was obviously I lot of reluctance from some players to him becoming manager at first, this was clear from early performances - after the first lot of show-down talks things seemed to improve but obviously there are still some players who have a problem with him.
Players looking after themselves - hard to tell just how bad the drinking/drugs/gambling/etc culture is among some groups of players at the club but there is obviously some type of problem there.
Some of our best players haven't been performing anywhere near their
best for one or both of the reasons above, Tins has tried to do
something about it - exactly what its hard to tell - but the last few
weeks events seem to indicate he has run out of ideas there too.
Again that situation looks desperate.
Looking at the signings he has made too. At first they looked spot
on - Brooker, Heff, S.Brown, Orr, Smith - all very good additions to
the squad. But lately we've had Dinning (very rash signing, he
didn't do much to impress on loan and has looked complete crap since), Ireland (first he's coming, then we don't want him, then he's back. whats goin on?) and most desperate of all. Carey! Desperate actions again.
Im not blaming Tins for all this, but I think what he has desperately
needed in all of these situations is an experienced No.2 - someone
from outside the Club who could have come in to give a fresh
perspective on what is wrong at Ashton Gate, someone who could put
some level-headed and calmer input into recent decisions / signings /
formations / dealings with players/media etc, and most importantly
someone who has dealt with difficult players who aren't performing
before and can bring some discipline to the lazy chav ponces and give
them a kick up the arse. Who has Tinnion got to consult now? All
the coaches we have are ex-players with no experience, apart from
Thawthrop who has been here longer than the Dolman stand - what
advice are they giving and do the players who are taking the piss
listen to and respect them?
I really think we need someone in from outside the club to come in and shake things up, but Im not sure if we can do this without losing Tinnion or not. It should have been done at the start of the season (nothing against Millen but he just isn't what we needed), can we bring someone in now to work with Tinnion without undermining his position? Would anyone suitable want to come in and be his number 2? Maybe he will have to go, but I'll feel sorry for him if he does, he's taken on a tough job with not much support and high expectations to succeed when he could have just taken the easy option and walked off with his City hero status in tact.
Yesterday Tinnion retires from playing and the City forum is full of comments like "good, get lost, now quit as manager too" rather than thanking him for 12 years great service from one of the best players we've had in recent years. That’s a shame.
As for Phillips – brilliant shot-stopper, great at one-on-ones and has kept us in many games the last few years… but the amount of stupid mistakes he has made that have cost us crucial goals is inexcusable! His usual problem is failing to claim easy crosses that any other keeper in the league would get no problem. There are too many to list (and I try and shut them out of memory!) but the Chesterfield one is most recent mistake, at least 1 of the goals against Luton (may have even been both), Phillips and Matt Hill gawping at each other and letting Swindon score their first, and going back to last season I remember him costing us the game against Luton away (we would have gone up if we'd got 3 points there). New Keeper would be the first thing I would have bought as manager!
End of rant.
ZIDER! |
| Jungle Jim |
Posted - 14/02/2005 : 20:37:07
Chesterfield, last 5 mins...
the start of a long list
Cider's coming home...
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| longy |
Posted - 14/02/2005 : 18:35:21
cock ups???? - Could you name some for me please? And then just look at the amount of saves hes made, which other keepers wouldnt, which have kept us in matches! I think hes been one of our most consistent performers this year, and thats consistently good. I think the problem is the dire defence which puts us in a crisis from set pieces.
Longy. |
| lord lucan |
Posted - 14/02/2005 : 18:26:42
Phillips for me has made to many c*ck ups. He has no comunication with his defence and time again he puts us in trouble with his catching.
April 23. be proud |
