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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2004 :  09:38:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Tharg, that advice makes sense now and was something i hadn't thought of. i changed the airlock for a different one last night as one final throw of the dice, if that doesn't work i shall soon let you know what HMZ's new Non-Alcoholic cider range tastes like!

ZIDER!
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Tharg drinker of cider
Cider Bus Convert



Borneo
184 Posts

Posted - 16/12/2004 :  11:25:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did it work?

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JJJ
White Lightning Beginner

Wallis and Futuna Islands
34 Posts

Posted - 16/12/2004 :  13:21:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it Boody sunday this week at the ring o'bells? if so is it Thatchers only drinking?
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Jeff the Chef
Thatchers Veteran



United Arab Emirates
672 Posts

Posted - 16/12/2004 :  14:12:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you read the thread before posting that one?

....Don't Tell I Tell Ee
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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2004 :  11:04:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello JJJ, yes it is Bloody Sunday - weve been chatting about it here: http://www.hannahmorezider.co.uk/new_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=954 im not touching that dodgy Thatchers stuff, the last pint Lord Lucan had was terrible.

Tharg, no my cider is beyond saving i think. Its not doing anything.

ZIDER!
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Tharg drinker of cider
Cider Bus Convert



Borneo
184 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2004 :  18:17:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gents, I'm still convinced you can make a servicable cider from that juice of yours. Try adding a yeast nutrient: (Is this the longest link ever?) www.art-of-brewing.co.uk/acatalog/AoB_OnLine_Catalogue_Yeast__Nutrient___Enzymes______35.html&CatalogBody" target="_blank">http://www.art-of-brewing.co.uk/acatalog/intro.html?http%3A//www.art-of-brewing.co.uk/acatalog/AoB_OnLine_Catalogue_Yeast__Nutrient___Enzymes______35.html&CatalogBody
Or maybe add some more yeast.

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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2004 :  08:26:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That may well be the longest link ever, and after carefully copying and pasting it into my address bar ive found that website is blocked by my work PC as well (is nothing safe?)! I'll have a look later at what that is exactly.

I have added 2 lots of yeast, fairly large quantities. 1st time i put some yeast in the cider one morning, my house gets really hot during the day and i came home to find the cider bubbling away crazily... but the house gets really cold at night and the next morning it was hardly bubbling at all. Morning after it had stopped. So i put some more in to get it going a few days later and it started off again, but stops overnight. Im sure its just because the temperature in my house is all over the place, and its freezing at night, from what i understand youve gotta keep cider and a pretty constant temperature but for the sake of 1 gallon it wasn't really cost effective keeping the house heated all night. When we make 100's of gallons and have our own house next year it'll be a different story!

ZIDER!
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Tharg drinker of cider
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Borneo
184 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2004 :  09:50:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe you're getting it too hot? Stick it in the garden/on the roof/on an outside windowsill. The cold won't hurt it, if anything, your cider will benefit from a long, slow fermentation. That link was longer than the information it contained, it was just a brewing supply company catalogue.
May I take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy Christmas, and a prosperous New Year. Looking forward to next year's pressings and tastings. I'm off to the Lake District today, with a 3 gallon manucube of Orchard's Kingston Black to help tide me over the holiday. Where ever you all pitch up, have a good one!


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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 24/12/2004 :  09:34:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Happy Christmas and merry new year to everyone too. Your 3 gallons of Orchards has given me another idea for a topic...

ZIDER!
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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 30/12/2004 :  10:24:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is hope for my gallon of cider! This morning i read this in "Cidermaking" book by Michael B Quinion:

"It was not uncommon for the casks to go silent for six weeks or longer in the coldest part of winter, only to start fermenting again in the warmer weather of early spring. Farmers preferred a slow fermentation because it gave a better product."

I will hang on to the cider and hope for a fine, slow-fermented brew ready for the summer!

ZIDER!
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Jack the Hat
Blackthorn Experimenter



64 Posts

Posted - 26/01/2005 :  11:19:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I had my first gallon delivered last week, and I have to say it's pretty damn tasty. Not bad for a first effort, and hopefully we'll increase the production next time round - Al, get a bigger house.

The Glastonbury apples did the job, producing a medium dry scrump of a fine colour, which after a couple of glasses (didn't want to risk a pint to start off with) gave me a pretty good ideal of the alcohol content, which is I reckon at least 6% . Bargain. Just need some barrells for next time so to avoid the very subtle plastic aftertaste from the fermentation bins...

I'd even stick my neck out and say this has the potential to be better than Riches - it's already better than that Thatchers nonsense. It went down very well with the non zider drinkers in my house too, so time to start distributing it to the masses.
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Tharg drinker of cider
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Borneo
184 Posts

Posted - 26/01/2005 :  12:56:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's looking very encouraging! My own own batch of Thames Cider is still bubbling away slowly, and smells fantastic. We've had good reports so far from the others who went for a quicker brew, and have racked off already.

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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 26/01/2005 :  14:23:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jack the Hat

Well, I had my first gallon delivered last week, and I have to say it's pretty damn tasty. Not bad for a first effort, and hopefully we'll increase the production next time round - Al, get a bigger house.
If Al can get as many of those juicy apples as last time and HMZ get our equipment & new cider house sorted we'll happily help with pressing and storage. Production could certainly be increased.

Cant wait to try some Berrow Hill myself.

ZIDER!
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Ivanhoe Martin
Cider Bus Convert



Oman
273 Posts

Posted - 26/01/2005 :  14:57:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good news about the Berrow Hill. Congratulations Al. See you at the Big Apple?

Ours (having fermented quickly in the kitchen) is now chilling outdoors. It will be racked off for the second time in a couple of weeks. It tasted pretty decent when we racked it off last time, so I'm hoping it's at least as nice now.

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Gents
HMZ God



Trinidad and Tobago
2214 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2005 :  16:22:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gents

There is hope for my gallon of cider! This morning i read this in "Cidermaking" book by Michael B Quinion:

"It was not uncommon for the casks to go silent for six weeks or longer in the coldest part of winter, only to start fermenting again in the warmer weather of early spring. Farmers preferred a slow fermentation because it gave a better product."

I will hang on to the cider and hope for a fine, slow-fermented brew ready for the summer!

ZIDER!

I returned home from Plymouth this weekend to find the amount of juice in my demi-john's airlock seemed to have increased, and even thought i saw a bubble come out... will have a closer inspection tonight but with any luck things may have sparked off again!!


ZIDER
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